Thursday, June 01, 2006



The post below to DETENTION and OTHER BAREBACKING FANS is from the gay message board Squirt I have a wide diversity of readers and for those not gay, barebacking, refers to anal sex between two men (usually gay)without a condom. These barebackers for the most part have HIV/AIDS. They posted the desire to have a sex party gathering with one rule being no disclosure/talking of HIV. POZ is another term being used to define a Gay Male who is HIV positive. Often Poz men look for other Poz men and this is so they don't need to use a condom. An individual by the anonymous handle DETENTION started the thread calling for a public Barebacking sex party--Jamie Lee.


I think its kinda sad that you guys feel the need to bareback. I've chatted with a Poz friend lots about this issue and he informs me that Poz guys (Barebackers-BB) prefer not to want to wear condoms and this is why they advertise for other Poz (BB)guys.

I know there are different strains of HIV out there and participating in a behaviour (BB) which may cause mutated strains of HIV is troubling. I don't think the esteemed AIDS expert, Dr Julio Montaner, would be happy to hear how his patients are barebacking.

In fact, I wonder if BB should be put into the Criminal Code under the sexual assault category unless HIV status is disclosed. The reason I say this is not to be cruel but due to the fact that as Detention said in the one rule for his party-No talk about HIV-does not provide disclosure or informed consent. This means to me that guys are throwing away any sense of responsibility and do not care what this means to the broader society. So many questions arise here and I won't go into them all but I wonder if the AIDS cocktails are creating some mental health issues for some of those taking the meds. I say this because I don't believe a reasonable, responsible, progressive thinking and caring person would be out promoting Barebacking as something positive in life.

And if this Barebacking behaviour is in the bathhouses, as is articulated in this thread, perhaps we need to look to license sex clubs instead of baths so that staff can ensure participants are engaging in acceptable sexual behaviour in public rather than behind locked rooms which are in the baths. In fact, both New York and San Francisco have done this in order to combat the spread of HIV/AIDS.

Finally, in the recent Supreme Court decision on the legality of Swinger Clubs, the ruling was they are acceptable as long as they are private and they are NOT creating Harm to the public.

In my opinion, Barebacking does create harm to the public and Barebackers need to rethink what you are promoting. It creates harm in a number of ways. First, unsuspecting individuals may trust that another person wouldn't unknowingly transfer HIV/AIDS to them and therefore may not use any protection, and consequently acquire HIV. Second, medical costs going up because of the spread of mutated HIV strains. HIV is a preventable disease. Third, the cost of loss of life and for gay men to irrationally engage in risky unprotected sex is jaundiced thinking. Four, it costs the taxpayers large sums of money in health care costs to treat an HIV individual who now with the AIDS cocktails can live up to twenty years.

I hope I haven't offended anyone here because it is not my intention to do so. I merely post these thoughts to combat what I think is reckless behaviour.

Liberty and Freedom are wonderful values but without Personal/Societal Responsibility, they are meaningless..

Jamie Lee Hamilton


At 4:06 PM, Anonymous Carl Penner said...

All the bathhouses I have been to do promote safe sex and you must sign stuff before you are allowed in saying you will do your best to have the safest sex possible.
Maybe this wasn't the case when you worked at Tony's.
I have been to bathhouses, in this city and others where they have Health Nurses that come in so that customers can ask questions about sex, get a flu shot, whatever.
I have also never witnessed any barebacking in these establishments although I am sure it does happen.
I have also seen buckets upon buckets of condoms situated in all areas of bathhouses, in this day and age, most men are away of the risks and I feel do their best to protect one another.
I really doubt these places would be allowed to operate especially with how fickle the gay community could be, we know a money grab when we see one.

At 11:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You nailed it, Jamie Lee. Thank you for expressing the issue so clearly. I hope folks are listening.

At 7:11 PM, Blogger Jamie Lee Hamilton said...

Hi Carl,

No I agree that bathhouses provide condoms but Barebacking refers to the No use of Condoms. That is what my story is about. And Carl if everyone was having safe sex as you articulate perhaps the HIV/AIDS rates would not have quadrupled in the last few years as Dr Julio Montaner and Dr. Peter Centre Executive Director, Maxime Davis have articulated.

Could it be because Barebacking is becoming a normal and acceptable practise in the gay community? Even at Bathhouses where once people go into a private locked room, noone knows truly what is happening Carl.

At 10:08 PM, Blogger Jamie Lee Hamilton said...

Hi Carl,

I have not posted your latest latest comment because you are using my blog to promote baths. The issue is about Barebacking and therefore I have rejected your latest post due to you not keeping the post topical.

At 11:38 PM, Blogger Jamie Lee Hamilton said...


You sent another post which I have rejected. I do this because you are personalizing your comments about me. The story is not about me. Its about Barebacking, HIV/AIDS and Liberties. If you can provide some insight on Barebacking, I would be more than happy to post your comments.


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